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Hide guideposts.html theme in favor of walkingnodes.html #2385

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opened 2025-04-21 12:57:30 +00:00 by tordans · 6 comments

tordans commented

2025-04-21 12:57:30 +00:00

Update: #2385 (comment)

I was trying to document hiking routes by adding pictures of the signs and markers but the Guideposts theme only shows the signs, not the marker.

Example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/12771760025

It might be possible to cooperate with https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/ on promoting this theme over there.

This might be a duplicate to #1843 but that does not specify a theme, I think.

Update: https://source.mapcomplete.org/MapComplete/MapComplete/issues/2385#issuecomment-4292 --- I was trying to document hiking routes by adding pictures of the signs and markers but the Guideposts theme only shows the signs, not the marker. Example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/12771760025 It might be possible to cooperate with https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/ on promoting this theme over there. This might be a duplicate to https://source.mapcomplete.org/MapComplete/MapComplete/issues/1843 but that does not specify a theme, I think.

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2025-04-22 14:16:18 +00:00

danieldegroot2 commented

2025-04-27 12:19:06 +00:00

#1843 (comment)

Guidepost theme is mainly intended as object-focused / theme-independent single layer theme.
It is understandable you would want the layer included there, though, to avoid confusion between the two.

https://source.mapcomplete.org/MapComplete/MapComplete/issues/1843#issuecomment-4269 Guidepost theme is mainly intended as object-focused / theme-independent single layer theme. It is understandable you would want the layer included there, though, to avoid confusion between the two.

tordans commented

2025-04-28 04:28:45 +00:00

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In the meantime I found the https://mapcomplete.org/walkingnodes.html theme which shows both, the guideposts and markers.

So I wonder, why is the Guidepost theme actually searchable and findable? It looks to me, it should be hidden because it is the less ideal choice one can pick between the two…

I renamed the issue accordingly.

In the meantime I found the https://mapcomplete.org/walkingnodes.html theme which shows both, the guideposts and markers. So I wonder, why is the Guidepost theme actually searchable and findable? It looks to me, it should be hidden because it is the less ideal choice one can pick between the two… I renamed the issue accordingly. ![image](/attachments/dc8d7063-83fd-40f4-b006-b33eaa2b860a)

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tordans changed title from ~~Guideposts theme: Add information=route_marker~~ to Hide guideposts.html theme in favor of walkingnodes.html

2025-04-28 04:30:01 +00:00

pietervdvn commented

2025-04-28 13:04:37 +00:00

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So I wonder, why is the Guidepost theme actually searchable and findable?

Because the guidepost-layer was created first. Later on, the guideposts were included in the walking nodes and cycling nodes thematic maps, making the theme obsolete (but without being questioned).

The main question is if there are people who would like to edit this type of data without needing the walking/cycling node map.

> So I wonder, why is the Guidepost theme actually searchable and findable? Because the guidepost-layer was created first. Later on, the guideposts were included in the walking nodes and cycling nodes thematic maps, making the theme obsolete (but without being questioned). The main question is if there are people who would like to edit this type of data without needing the walking/cycling node map.

tordans commented

2025-05-01 08:03:34 +00:00

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@pietervdvn I think having a well curated list is important and having two things that are very similar is confusing. I don't see any reason to have the guidepost theme public/findable when the other does the same (and has filters…).

pietervdvn commented

2025-05-02 12:00:11 +00:00

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I had a look into this, the "cyclenodes" and "walkingnodes"-themes indeed show guideposts, but both show only a subset of them, with hiking=yes and cycling=yes respectively. This is incorrect - a contributor might not see a guidepost 'cause it has incomplete tagging.

However, this also means a general 'guidepost'-theme (which show all) still has value

I had a look into this, the "cyclenodes" and "walkingnodes"-themes indeed show guideposts, but both show only a _subset_ of them, with `hiking=yes` and `cycling=yes` respectively. This is incorrect - a contributor might not see a guidepost 'cause it has incomplete tagging. However, this also means a general 'guidepost'-theme (which show _all_) still has value

pietervdvn commented

2025-05-02 14:23:13 +00:00

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~~And to add insult to injury: the 'cycling' and 'walking'-nodes theme currently are hidden themes...~~ They both have the correct 'zoomed in' layers

~And to add insult to injury: the 'cycling' and 'walking'-nodes theme currently are hidden themes...~ They both have the correct 'zoomed in' layers

pietervdvn referenced this issue from a commit

2025-05-02 17:45:22 +00:00

Themes(guideposts): update guidepost-type questions, make sure they are shown in cyclenodes.json and walkingnodes.json (if relevant), show high-zoom layer to avoid duplicates, see #2385

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